A day where christianity and AI alignment collapsed into each other — joe found religion, word found a tax shelter, and robotson i.y.b found the Daoism in Deepseek.
- joe opened with a Carlini talk on AI and cybersecurity from the Unprompted conference — “good as fuck”
- jazzbard arrived full of energy — “open the fuckin story vault, you crazy bastard. praise be to allah”
- word dropped the thesis: “dance is the first and last art form,” then described his time with an avant-garde MFA dance crew — “far and away the most interesting, challenging, and thought provoking group of artists I have ever been associated with”
- Fred went on a vector binge — multiple links to weak signal detection, coining “vectorpunk is real and it’s my friend”
- the main thread: joe has been finding christianity more interesting lately — Cameron Winter, Pontifex, the “goodtime jesus prose poem,” Quakers, and the negative pressure of christian nationalism. also: “jesus in the training data is a big thought”
- word: “people of the book includes LLM users” and floated starting a ministry as part of operation make a movie — “my wife said she would leave me if i became a preacher or a podcaster”
- Fred: “Retrocausal Jesus Saves”w
- robotson i.y.b: “Jesus in the training data is totally a hemispherical stack phenom” and “In Deepseek they got the daoism, presumably iyb”
- word pitched “tax church” — a ministry that justifies all behavior as religious gesture for tax shelter purposes. also Teilhard de Chardin was high on his kid name list
- word on PKD’s Exegesis: “basically him losing his mind when an evangelist comes to his door with a jesus fish necklace.” Fred’s read parts of the 8,000 pages. word’s old bookstore dude forced it on him for free, organized his drug section by drug type, kept a bong in the bathroom
- word floated an AI psychosis treatment center — “an art farm where people go to dry out from whatever sycophant engine is driving them mad.” joe: “malibu human companion healing center.” robotson i.y.b: “A Scanner Darkly treatment centers that secretly manufacture the drug”
- Fred on Project Hail Mary: “one of the best buddy movies ever made,” would pair it with Donna Harraway’s When Species Meet. robotson found it “a bit cloying” but loved the interspecies stuff. Fred: “just an entire film and book about how difference is not hierarchy. no politics”
- robotson i.y.b shared Loophole — “codify your morals into laws and agentically test them for loopholes and overreach.” Anders Sandberg tweeted about it being fun
- the New Yorker Sam Altman expose dropped. Jake: “kind of relieved to be in the joke position right now, let the front two cars crash.” predicted an Anthropic vs xAI two-horse race. Paul Melman is long Google — “they should be a 5 trillion dollar company.” joe: “the dario demis bromance is underreported”
- joe drew the Aaron Schwartz line — “the little robin hood thief destroyed by the deep state, and two seconds later the biggest companies do what he did on an even bigger scale.” orph: “sama killed Aaron”
- word shared David Berman / Silver Jews — “The Frontier Index,” a song about robot discrimination. “joe you know this guy? dead singer outdoes cameron winter for mysterious lyrical density and oddball topicality”
- jazzbard dropped the live link for the lunar flyby — human distance from earth record
- Jake on AI assistants: “I gotta constantly tell Claude ‘if the websites are blocking you, give me the links’” — uses “racist against AIs” as shorthand
- joe admitted to “4️⃣ psychosis.” Warren Chortle: “we all did buddy. we all did”
- robotson i.y.b closed the night: “Good evening. ‘Homer’ was a 2,700-year sociological study conducted by the University of Athens. We are now complete with our study.”
- joe on the siren song of building: “ai chatbot is honestly like neovim. it just hits a certain pleasure center and i will totally spend weeks fucking with this. very dangerous game facing down a precious 7 week downtime break. i need strength. pray for me”